ROBERTO GIUSTI
EL UNIVERSAL
An exceptional case in Venezuela, Aníbal Romero's viewpoints
contrast with those of most intellectuals; he does not view
the political scene from the left. Political science professor
at Simón Bolivar University and, until Hugo Chávez's
rise to power, also at military institutions, Romero concludes
his analysis of the Venezuelan President's political perspectives
with a dilemma: jail or life-long term in office.
Question: What are the implications of (US President
George W.) Bush's comments on Chávez's relations with
the rebel Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces (FARC)?
Answer: First, they represent a warning to the Venezuelan
government regarding its bonds with the Colombian guerilla,
Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and subversive groups in other Latin
American countries. This situation may actually lead to the
Venezuelan government being deemed by the US as a sponsor
of terrorism. Second, this is a message from Bush to Latin
American leaders: Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, Cristina
de Kirchner, Tabaré Vásquez, Alan García and
those in the Caribbean countries: "Álvaro Uribe represents
democracy and the fight against terrorism whereas Chávez
is taking a different path."
Q: Why now and not earlier?
A: The US would have preferred to let Chávez sink deeper
by just carefully waiting and seeing. But after Chávez
erased all ambiguity concerning his relations with the Colombian
guerilla and in light of new evidence (the personal computers
of late FARC's number two man Raúl Reyes and other guerilla
members), the wheels of the implacable US justice system have
been set in motion.
Q: What precisely do you mean by that last phrase?
A: Bush may be responding to information from the Department
of Justice on the need for a legal investigation on the situation
of Chávez and the Colombian guerilla. If it is confirmed
that Chávez sponsors the guerilla, the US is legally
compelled to take action. Abstaining from doing so may result
in a violation of American law, which establishes that a state
supporting terrorism poses a threat to the United States,
and it is the duty of the American government to respond.
Q: How would it respond?
A: There are several stages. The most severe action would
be to label Venezuela as a State Sponsor of Terrorism. At
present, five countries have been designated as sponsors of
terrorism: North Korea, Cuba, Sudan, Syria, and Iran.
Q: What are the implications of being considered
a sponsor of terrorism?
A: If Venezuela were designated as such, which has not happened,
three laws would apply, namely the Export Administration Act,
the Arms Export Control Act and the Foreign Assistance Act.
In this connection, four types of sanctions could be imposed:
limitations on US foreign aid, a ban on arms sales, controls
over exports of dual-use items (which may be used for both
war and peace) and financial restrictions. These are initially
the most severe measures. However, designation as a state
sponsoring terrorism implies an immediate impairment on the
capacity of US companies to do business in or trade with Venezuela.
This would affect oil sales to the US. These are serious circumstances.
Q: What would be the status of Venezuelan property and
holdings in the US?
A: They could be frozen as Libya's and Iran's once were because
these restrictions act as an ever-tightening tourniquet.
Q: Is the status of a state sponsor of terrorism also
applied by the European Union?
A: The European Union has designated FARC as a terrorist
organization. Europeans, in the end, let the US act things
out while they wait and see. Nevertheless, they are also affected
by this situation because they must protect themselves so
that US companies can continue to do business with them.
Q: Would the same apply to Latin America?
A: Latin American countries must take matters into their
own hands. After the rocambolesque episodes stemming from
Raúl Reyes's death and Chávez's unfortunate decision
making, the latter realized that he was venturing into dangerous
territory and took a few steps back.
Q: What facts evidence his backtracking?
A: There are four underlying causes: he was not supported
by Venezuelan masses in his aggressive attitude toward Colombia;
the Armed Forces opposed to the possibility of a war in which
Venezuela might have not had the upper hand; Chávez was
frightened by Uribe's threat of taking matters before the
International Criminal Court in The Hague and, finally, I
believe he was warned against the consequences of being designated
a state sponsor of terrorism. This tactical retreat was apparent
in the Río Group summit (where he found a way to cop
out, leaving Correa to fend for himself), in recent changes
to his stance on regional issues and finally in the summit
with Uribe that is currently being planned.
Q: Is a bilateral summit enough to erase mutual accusations
and offenses?
A: This summit, if held, conveys a deep meaning. Whatever
remains of the guerilla, from a military standpoint, will
have to understand that it cannot rely on Chávez as its
salvation.
Q: Will Chávez leave the guerilla stranded so that
he can avoid sanctions?
A: Cuba is possibly trying to bring Chávez to reason.
Not because he really intends to but because there is no other
path left to tread, Chávez may actually be heading for
the direction of admitting that the Colombian guerilla, as
an armed movement, is politically done for and its military
capabilities may be easily destroyed soon. Chávez might
be compelled to admit this defeat, which is his own as much
as it is his allies'.
Q: Do you mean that Chávez's continental project
has been defeated?
A. On December 2, (when he lost a referendum on his proposed
changes to the Constitution) Chávez experienced a strategic
defeat domestically, one from which he may not recover. As
his constitutional presidential term comes to an end, it is
evident that he may not establish a political project that
was already rejected. Only a miracle could allow him to extend
his presidency beyond the constitutional term. Internationally,
the death of Reyes and the Río Summit put an end to his
expansion project in Latin America. Uribe came out victorious.
Q: If Chávez has suffered internationally, why
declare his government a sponsor of terrorism?
A: In the US, there is a true separation of powers. The US
Supreme Court does not sit around watching "Aló, Presidente",
Chávez's weekly-televised broadcast, to render its decisions.
If the Department of Justice holds evidence of support to
the guerrilla and terrorist groups of the Middle East, as
denounced by Shimon Peres, the wheels of the justice system
of the United States will be set in motion, regardless of
what Bush may think, say or feel.
Q: If so, what would the process be like?
A: The Department of the State would make a statement to
the different government organizations: departments of Treasury,
Justice (police, FBI), etc...
Q: An arrest warrant?
A: This is not about a single person; it is about a state.
Venezuela and the Chávez government will suffer the consequences.
Q: Is there any personal liability because it was Chávez
who made that decision?
A: If Hugo Chávez does not fundamentally change his
stance in the rest of his constitutional term in office, he
may be tempted to further prolong his stay at all cost
since his only other choice would be imprisonment in Venezuela
or abroad. He has gone much too far, giving rise to very serious
criminal implications. They will persist throughout time since
certain crimes may be subject to prosecution regardless of
when they were committed. Chávez has five more years
in office. He still has a chance to make amends and stop his
downfall toward the thin line between politics and criminality.
Will he do so? It is not his nature.
Translated by Félix Rojas